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What you appear to be implying is that the EU's ruling class is quite ready to de-industrialise in much the way that both the US and the UK have and switch their capital to low wage authoritarian countries, at least until all trace of the post 45 Social democratic settlements have been erased. And the poor are once again biddable enough to make employing them profitable.

Within this sort of standard class war politics, faux green programmes are just another stick for the dog abusers.

As to the Greens: no surprises there. In both Germany and France the '68ist Green radicals vey quickly resolved themselves into freelance demagogues like Joshka Fischer . Like the OUN German greens have roots which include blood and soil fascism.

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EU Greens -especially of Germany- are major turncoats , and the Trojan Horse of the capitalistic Elites. You are absolutely right about making Europeans biddable. With six million hungry Ukrainians in Europe now, the average wage for the “man in the street” will hit bottom. Get ready for crime, death and misery and maybe we see tumbrils and guillotines in townsquares of Europe once again.

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Y'know, thinking about the last 2-3 decades of thinking in the Western left (such as it is), it occurs to me that that we've made a fundamental error in our approach to the issue of climate change and capitalism, especially the connection between the two.

If you assume that the root cause of the climate disaster is capitalism but especially the core, imperialist states (about 10), then we know that capitalism will NEVER take the right steps, it's incapable of such actions, the last 50 years proves that. Thus the focus for the left (and the bloody rest of us!) should be not on climate change per se but on overthrowing capitalism and in those 10 core states: US, UK, Germany, France, Belgium, Holland, Italy, Canada, Australia and the 'honoury' white nation, Japan.

It doesn't sound much of a change but it makes a fundamental reversal of emphasis.

Just a thought.

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Came across this and it's completely relevant:

http://thesaker.is/japans-looking-at-10-million-hikikomori/

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What people don’t realise is that even green cars are way too polluting and expensive , if you factor in how much pollution and how many resources are consumed building the cars . You need lots of precious metals that are toxic to produce , and very energy intensive. Lifetime cost to the Earth is still cheaper with petrol engines.

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The entire debate on climate change and what is properly called the Capitalocene is framed in capitalist terms. Whether cars are fueled by solar panels, hydrocarbons or electricity produced by nuclear power stations is a matter of detail. The question is whether we need cars at all. SA proper public transport system augmented by such services as chaufferage would take care of most domestic transport needs.

The first step towards a green economy and mitigating climate change is social ownership and control over capital. Any talk of green politics which does not begin with the recognition that it is not Co2 or greenhouse gases which are the problem but unregulated production for profit in an economy in which, at the very best, society is chasing after people who have already ruined the environment.

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thanks roger... this is an excellent overview, however cynical it may appear to some based on their ( msm) conditioning...

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