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Concerned Celtiberian's avatar

Great article Roger!

If anything, it might be even too optimistic…

A quick anecdote to show how bad the situation in Italy really is: there are LOTS (relatively speaking) of youngish Italian immigrants living in my little corner of Spain. Work opportunities must be very low if the situation in Spain is for them much better than in their home country (in Spain we have a chronic unemployment problem).

Also, the role of the €€€ in Italy’s downfall cannot be overstated. In the 90s / early 00s Germany was in a quite bad situation (i know it bc I was there and saw it firsthand!). But once the full impact of the € and of the ECB’s ultra low rate policies hit, the change was massive. German exports profited from an artificial devaluation while Spanish and Italian industrial goods lost most of their competitiveness. The once excellent industrial equipment and machine tool industry in northern Italy was destroyed. Also, ultra low rates facilitated new investments in German manufacturing and in German firms buying Eastern European rivals, where they set up a low cost supply chain spanning all the way from Ukraine up to Czech Republic, while wage suppression inside Germany shielded the country against the high inflation that spread to the Eurozone periphery. These same low rates fueled the catastrophic real estate bubbles that we saw in Spain, Ireland, etc in 2008.

In short: the € has been the worst thing that has happened to to the Eurozone periphery since the end of WWII…

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james's avatar

it seems as though the european union has been a great idea for neoliberalism, but a very bad one for democracy.. now all the countries are beholden to unelected officials whether it be at the european central bank, european commission and etc. etc.. at some point many within europe who are a part of this union will have to call a spade a spade and exit this straight jacket.. but that won't happen before the capitalists get more money out of them, and for leaving too..

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